{"id":12464,"date":"2009-11-18T07:57:16","date_gmt":"2009-11-18T10:57:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.inclusive.org.br\/?p=12464"},"modified":"2009-11-18T07:57:16","modified_gmt":"2009-11-18T10:57:16","slug":"clianca-tloca-o-ele-r-pelo-ele-l-via-postie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/inclusivenews.com.br\/?p=12464","title":{"rendered":"Clian\u00e7a tloca o ele (r) pelo ele (l)?"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_12479\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-12479\" style=\"width: 100px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.inclusivenews.com.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/superfofos2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12479\" title=\"Superfofos.\" src=\"http:\/\/inclusivenews.com.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/superfofos2.jpg\" alt=\"Superfofos.\" width=\"100\" height=\"89\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-12479\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"> <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Por Rodrigo Cunha<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">A ComCi\u00eancia acaba de publicar uma edi\u00e7\u00e3o dedicada ao tema \u201cOrtografia\u201d. Sem nunca ter negado a import\u00e2ncia da escrita, sempre me preocupei com uma certa confus\u00e3o entre escrita e fala no imagin\u00e1rio das pessoas em geral. E recentemente, essa preocupa\u00e7\u00e3o reavivou inquieta\u00e7\u00f5es que, acreditem, j\u00e1 tinha desde minha inf\u00e2ncia. Minhas filhas de seis e tr\u00eas anos t\u00eam adorado assistir a um desenho da TV Cultura de S\u00e3o Paulo, chamado Super Fofos. O programa \u00e9 musicalmente excelente, com trilha orquestrada que j\u00e1 recebeu pr\u00eamios importantes. Um personagem em particular, o patinho Ming-Ming, tem uma caracter\u00edstica de fala que comparo com a de outros dois personagens de minha inf\u00e2ncia.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Em um trecho da m\u00fasica principal do desenho, ele canta \u201cN\u00e3o somos gland\u00f5es\u201d, e se o verso seguinte fosse seu, cantaria \u201cnem foltes tamb\u00e9m\u201d. D\u00e1 para imaginar o que acontece em outros contextos onde apareceria um \u201cerre\u201d, nos di\u00e1logos com a participa\u00e7\u00e3o de Ming-Ming. Essa caracter\u00edstica \u00e9 a marca registrada de um dos principais personagens de Maur\u00edcio de Souza, o Cebolinha. Como esse personagem da Turma da M\u00f4nica nasceu primeiro nos gibis para depois ganhar as telas, aqueles que o conhecem certamente viram primeiro a sua fala com a caracter\u00edstica troca de \u201cerre\u201d por \u201cele\u201d na escrita dentro dos bal\u00f5es que representam os di\u00e1logos nas hist\u00f3rias em quadrinhos; e s\u00f3 depois, ouviram o efeito daquela \u201ctroca\u201d na dublagem do desenho no cinema e na TV.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Aprendi a ler muito cedo e li bastante as hist\u00f3rias da Turma da M\u00f4nica. E sempre achei aquela fala do Cebolinha inveross\u00edmil \u2013 embora, obviamente, n\u00e3o soubesse o que essa palavra significava. Eu certamente sabia que uma crian\u00e7a que estava aprendendo a falar trocava alguns sons por outros, mas o Cebolinha j\u00e1 tinha passado dessa idade (devia ter por volta de sete anos) e eu nunca havia ouvido algu\u00e9m falar como ele. Talvez ele se encaixe em um dos casos descritos pela Associa\u00e7\u00e3o Brasileira de Dislexia: o disl\u00e9xico sempre tem dificuldades com a ortografia, muitas vezes tem dificuldade para compreender textos escritos e \u00e0s vezes tem dificuldade com a linguagem falada. Mesmo que o caso do Cebolinha seja de dislexia, acredito que a tal \u201ctroca\u201d, na vida real, n\u00e3o se d\u00ea em todos os contextos de fala onde apareceria um \u201cerre\u201d.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">E aqui entro na quest\u00e3o que abre este texto \u2013 a da confus\u00e3o entre escrita e fala \u2013 e que um outro personagem infantil deixa ainda mais expl\u00edcita. Trata-se de Hortelino Troca Letra, um coadjuvante dos desenhos do Pernalonga e do Patolino. Vejam s\u00f3 o nome desse personagem. Ainda que um ou outro epis\u00f3dio pudesse envolver em certos momentos a escrita, o que Hortelino \u201ctrocava\u201d era rigorosamente o mesmo que Cebolinha e Ming-Ming: em sua fala, todos os \u201cerres\u201d eram pronunciados como \u201celes\u201d. Portanto, n\u00e3o \u00e9 letra que ele troca, mas sons de \u201cerre\u201d.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">N\u00e3o vou nem entrar nas diferentes pron\u00fancias de \u201cerre\u201d decorrentes de diferen\u00e7as dialetais, como, por exemplo, o \u201cerre\u201d \u201ccaipira\u201d (que \u00e9 chique em Nova Iorque). Basta falar nos \u201cerres\u201d de minha filha Anita, de tr\u00eas anos. Ela troca o som de \u201cerre\u201d por \u201cele\u201d em contextos espec\u00edficos: \u201cO bal\u00e3o estoulou\u201d, \u201cN\u00e3o entendi dileito\u201d, \u201cA Malina chegou\u201d. Se pensarmos que o som do \u201cerre\u201d nesses contextos \u00e9 diferente do som do \u201cerre\u201d em \u201crato\u201d e \u201ccarro\u201d, talvez n\u00e3o seja surpreendente que, nesses casos, minha filha pronuncie \u201cerre\u201d. Nos contextos em que h\u00e1 outra consoante antes do erre, como na m\u00fasica cantada por Ming-Ming, o \u201cerre\u201d \u00e9 simplesmente apagado \u201cA piscina \u00e9 bem gande\u201d ou \u201cO papai \u00e9 gand\u00e3o\u201d ou ainda \u201cMeu pato ainda t\u00e1 cheio de comida\u201d. Quando o som de \u201cerre\u201d como o de \u201ccarro\u201d e \u201crato\u201d tem outra consoante depois, ele \u00e9 transformado em uma esp\u00e9cie de semi-vogal: \u201cPoi que?\u201d ou \u201cEu t\u00f4 usando o maitelo\u201d.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">O que quero dizer com tudo isso? Apenas que acho dif\u00edcil alguma crian\u00e7a dizer que est\u00e1 \u201clouca\u201d para falar da rouquid\u00e3o de sua voz \u2013 como o Cebolinha faria \u2013, assim como acho dif\u00edcil, na vida real, alguma crian\u00e7a dizer que est\u00e1 brincando com o \u201cmaltelo\u201d. E o que Cebolinha e Hortelino ilustram \u00e9 a vis\u00e3o (generalizada, por sinal) da escrita como representante \u00fanica e correta da l\u00edngua, diante da qual todo e qualquer \u201cdesvio\u201d \u00e9 considerado como erro. Mas o que seria, na verdade, a real caracter\u00edstica desses personagens \u00e9 uma fala diferenciada, e fala \u00e9 som, n\u00e3o \u00e9 letra. Al\u00e9m de ilustrar o equ\u00edvoco, Cebolinha, Hortelino e Ming-Ming, na minha vis\u00e3o, ajudam a dissemin\u00e1-lo.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Rodrigo Cunha \u00e9 linguista e editor da ComCi\u00eancia.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">________________________________<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Fonte de informa\u00e7\u00e3o: <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.comciencia.br\/comciencia\/?section=3&amp;noticia=578\">Com Ci\u00eancia <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Link abrir\u00e1 em uma nova janela ou aba.\" src=\"http:\/\/www.inclusive.org.br\/images\/new_window.gif\" alt=\"Link abrir\u00e1 em uma nova janela ou aba.\" width=\"16\" height=\"14\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nLicenciado pela CC 2.0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mas o que seria, na verdade, a real caracter\u00edstica desses personagens \u00e9 uma fala diferenciada, e fala \u00e9 som, n\u00e3o \u00e9 letra. Al\u00e9m de ilustrar o equ\u00edvoco, Cebolinha, Hortelino e Ming-Ming, na minha vis\u00e3o, ajudam a dissemin\u00e1-lo.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-container-style":"default","site-container-layout":"default","site-sidebar-layout":"default","disable-article-header":"default","disable-site-header":"default","disable-site-footer":"default","disable-content-area-spacing":"default","footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[31],"class_list":["post-12464","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-textos-e-artigos","tag-dislexia"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Clian\u00e7a tloca o ele (r) pelo ele (l)? -<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/inclusivenews.com.br\/?p=12464\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"pt_PT\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Clian\u00e7a tloca o ele (r) pelo ele (l)? -\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Mas o que seria, na verdade, a real caracter\u00edstica desses personagens \u00e9 uma fala diferenciada, e fala \u00e9 som, n\u00e3o \u00e9 letra. 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